Curse

jull · Nov 11, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Ok guys I really want everyone to nerf those stupid heroes from PvP that supposed to be PLAYERS vs PLAYERS.

Reason is really simple, yesterday I was with my team into Ha as usual, and we fought a 2g 2p 2m team (how surprising…) with only one real person and 5 heroes. We fought 30 minutes and we were enable to get them off. I was joking on local chat about how long it can be but no answers…we all tried to ask him if he were their, no answer.. We all begin to spam like hell on local, exchange chat and pm him staying polite… nothing happened. No answers...

We stayed 1h35 minutes on the match and this guy didn’t say a word, he was spamming his Paragon’s spells using the same order and same frequency without stopping. We are all barely sure it can continue hours.

With this new revolutionary stupid idea of Heroes into Ha we first began to see unranked peoples alone beating rank6+ team at hall. Now we become to see bots that push c>space and spam spells when the owner is quietly sleeping on his bed…

I really want everyone to do something, petition, tell friends to post here or mail Anet or something cose you’ll be all agree with me.. Ha is getting a sad place to play…

and many very good players start to leave gw community for anything else. No fun at all :

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 11, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Pointless to argue about this if u cant beat heroway then there must be something wrong. To me its a good thing its like free fame. I can even beat most heroways with heroway.

EDIT - If they dont say anything resign... If they do say somethng /roll 100 or rocks paper scissor to see who wins. Ive won 3 times just doint this.

Thom Bangalter · Nov 11, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

I can't believe no one has mentioned this before

Kalki · Nov 11, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

If Jull's observations are true this isn't Heroway this is Botway. And even if there is a player behind all that it's still not right that 1 person can effectively waste the time of 6 other people. Anet please put a minimum requirement of at least 3 REAL PEOPLE in Heroes Ascent to start a group.

Neo Nugget · Nov 11, 2006, 03:30 PM // 15:30

I admit it is rather anoying that heroway can beat most pugs im in but i guess that is the pugs problem lol.

Pkest · Nov 11, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Perhaps I'm missing something but how do you get 1 player character and 5 heroes? Or did you mean 3 heroes and 2 hench? If you 'drop heroes' from a second account wouldn't that make you 1 slot short? Sorry if I'm missing something fundamental about team creation in HA.

Legendary Shiz · Nov 11, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

I can't believe no one has mentioned this before

LOLOL!

hyro yamaguchi · Nov 11, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

I can't believe no one has mentioned this before

All about heroway, this thread, is about botway, anyway you are right, this could be discussed in other threads, by the way how would one win with a macro?

Spirit_Axery · Nov 11, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Problem for me and many other new HA'ers: A bunch of uppity peasants tell me I'm not allowed to play in HA because I've got no rank. Apparently, they were born R3, and I should be elsewhere.

Solution: Heroway

Parting thoughts: HA-HA-HA. Finally, a way for new HA'ers to get their feet on the ladder. No more "Human players LIMITING the game for other human players".

No hard feelings actually, but this is my opinion. I <3 Heroway, but I'll be happy to play with human players once I'm ranked and- therefore- no longer subject to their absurd abuse, which invariably comes before they've even seen me or whoever is their unlucky target actually play.

~~ Sa.

Nurse With Wound · Nov 11, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit_Axery

Problem for me and many other new HA'ers: A bunch of uppity peasants tell me I'm not allowed to play in HA because I've got no rank. Apparently, they were born R3, and I should be elsewhere.

Solution: Heroway

Parting thoughts: HA-HA-HA. Finally, a way for new HA'ers to get their feet on the ladder. No more "Human players LIMITING the game for other human players".

No hard feelings actually, but this is my opinion. I <3 Heroway, but I'll be happy to play with human players once I'm ranked and- therefore- no longer subject to their absurd abuse, which invariably comes before they've even seen me or whoever is their unlucky target actually play.

~~ Sa.

Playing heroway will teach you anythything, you will still suck badly like pve'er in pvp. People like you will NEVER play in my teams. Luckily they are guild or friendlist only, so I can avoid heroway loosers like you. Also, rank doesnt mean anything, If no one knows you ( and no one knows you, because you're playing with heroes ), you still wont find a good team, no matter of your rank lol. Have fun in your singleplayer environement.

I think the OP might be right. We all know there are some faction farming bots in RA, so now when the heroes and henches can do the whole job of wiping out the other heroes and henchmen it is entirely possible that some use bots to farm fame and faction this way... But I doubt someone in anet seriously cares - the DYE PROBLEM IS SO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING IMPORTANT.

Celeborn · Nov 11, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

I don't see why people are always complaining about stupid PUGs and rank prejudice. You can get r3 by finding a guild, playing with people you meet in HA or even joining random PUG groups till you get the 180 fame. It takes a while, but thats the whole point, people just expect to be able to play with good players even if they don't know much about HA.

I don't want to turn this into a rank discussion thread but I just thought that I'd respond Spirit_Axery and other players Hero excuse thoughts (just to be clear, I don't even mind heroes in HA).

Father Anansi · Nov 11, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jull

Ok guys I really want everyone to nerf those stupid heroes from PvP that supposed to be PLAYERS vs PLAYERS.

Reason is really simple, yesterday I was with my team into Ha as usual, and we fought a 2g 2p 2m team (how surprising…) with only one real person and 5 heroes. We fought 30 minutes and we were enable to get them off. I was joking on local chat about how long it can be but no answers…we all tried to ask him if he were their, no answer.. We all begin to spam like hell on local, exchange chat and pm him staying polite… nothing happened. No answers...

We stayed 1h35 minutes on the match and this guy didn’t say a word, he was spamming his Paragon’s spells using the same order and same frequency without stopping. We are all barely sure it can continue hours.

With this new revolutionary stupid idea of Heroes into Ha we first began to see unranked peoples alone beating rank6+ team at hall. Now we become to see bots that push c>space and spam spells when the owner is quietly sleeping on his bed…

I really want everyone to do something, petition, tell friends to post here or mail Anet or something cose you’ll be all agree with me.. Ha is getting a sad place to play…

and many very good players start to leave gw community for anything else. No fun at all :

This has most likely been the most sound arguement against Heroes in HA, I have read yet. Thank you.

hyro yamaguchi · Nov 11, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Ok that's it, I'm PMing Gaile, if she will please respond to this, that way she should respond right?

Yunas Ele · Nov 11, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit_Axery

Problem for me and many other new HA'ers: A bunch of uppity peasants tell me I'm not allowed to play in HA because I've got no rank. Apparently, they were born R3, and I should be elsewhere.

Solution: Heroway

Parting thoughts: HA-HA-HA. Finally, a way for new HA'ers to get their feet on the ladder. No more "Human players LIMITING the game for other human players".

No hard feelings actually, but this is my opinion. I <3 Heroway, but I'll be happy to play with human players once I'm ranked and- therefore- no longer subject to their absurd abuse, which invariably comes before they've even seen me or whoever is their unlucky target actually play.

~~ Sa.

lol? We all started unranked, fool. But instead of crying about how those "1337" r3+, r6+ or r9+ pugs (which, btw, fail miserably most the time. 99% of good teams come from f list/guild list) won't take you into their group and actually took the time to make your own group or join other unranked people's groups, you could get your rank in no time... but like nurse said rank is meaningless. But when you play with these other people you can friends list the good people, and make groups with them, then they invite you to their groups and you get more connections, and then it all goes from there. Who knows, you could be the next best HA group leader.

But intsead you just cry about how "1337" ranked groups wont take you in and " absurdly abuse" you. Sure, go heroway your rank. Its not going to get you into any better groups.

Anyways, original post just shows how bad HA has become. Thats why I'm playing PvE (just to clarify I mean the nightfall continent, not HA) and other games that are vastly superior to this AI bot farming crap (Okami and Final Fantasy 12 ftw.... go buy those games they're better than GW)

jull · Nov 11, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

i m not arguing about rank or something (even if I never saw Ha that boring to play).

Don't diform my talk and have another discution like beating heroes or problem to find groups (just play with guys with your rank that’s all). i'm just pointing on one single problem:

Anyone, (unranked to rank12) can get a macro, a defensive build like 2Rt 2p 2m or 3m and 3p whatever and let his computer turn 1week with a simple macro. I really doubt any "normal" builds will have enough power to get them down so what happen...6 guys will have to resign even rank12 pple, and this asshole will win.

Now get this and multiply it by thousands guys who will want to “farm” Ha using bots and it will be a nightmare..

I’m quiet sure the man we met last night was alone using a bot, no answers to pm, neither local chat, same combination of skills, same frequency using a high defensive build. Technicaly it’s very simple to do this kind of macro.

I just want to share this information to see if anyone had the feeling to be in front of this case and to warn Anet about that.

Nurse With Wound · Nov 11, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

Anyways, original post just shows how bad HA has become. Thats why I'm playing PvE (just to clarify I mean the nightfall continent, not HA) and other games that are vastly superior to this AI bot farming crap (Okami and Final Fantasy 12 ftw.... go buy those games they're better than GW)

Yeah HA is utter crap, I've moved to gvg entirely. CBA to farm bots for meaningless emotes, not my style of gameplay.

But I think that we should do something about it, I mean its second report of possible botting in HA! Thats not funny anymore.... Have you pmed Gaile or other anet rep Hyro?

phasola · Nov 11, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Anet is too busy with dyes and double crap weekends. I remember the outrage when all the PvE faces got changed. Sadly nobody seems to give a crap about this problem. And they won't remove heroes, because PvE pr0s get to play some "PvP". Instead of a better LFG system we got heroes. GG Anet.

hyro yamaguchi · Nov 11, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

Yeah HA is utter crap, I've moved to gvg entirely. CBA to farm bots for meaningless emotes, not my style of gameplay.

But I think that we should do something about it, I mean its second report of possible botting in HA! Thats not funny anymore.... Have you pmed Gaile or other anet rep Hyro?

Yep just send a Pm asking politely if she would respond to these comments.